Dawn Johnson and James Wilson interview Etienne and Beverly Wenger-Trayner
1. What is social learning theory?
- Experiential learning
- Practice-based learning
- Knowledge vs practice
- Didactic vs practice-based
- Problem-based learning
4. Professional identity
- Learning as transformation of who you are
- Knowledge as an ‘extracted from people' thing
- ‘Learning first’ (before ‘practice’) is a mistaken view of the relationship between knowledge and practice
- Shorthand in practice
7. What does practice mean?
- Professional practice → particular type of social practice
- Managers don’t have a privileged perspective (even if they have privileged power)
- Find the right balance between ‘horizontal’ and ‘vertical’ practice/power
10. Why would we want to push CoPs at XJTLU?
- The university has to value teaching (and explicitly state this)
- CoP is a bad way of getting people to do what they don’t want to do
- What are the rewards for teaching?
- Australian example (USQ) → based on a specific problem
- Something very practical about it → people have to see the need
- There’s no ‘should’ in it
- Clarity needed about strategic objectives
2. Community of practice (CoP) and learning theory
- Instrument of curriculum delivery vs practitioner
- Knowledge as transformative
- Learning spaces (CoPs)
- Core → social learning space: informed by practice & it will change their practice
- Feedback loops into practice
5. Organisational examples of social learning and CoPs
- Learning spaces (architecture) → social spaces
- Measuring impact
- Changing the place where knowledge exists
- Power in a learning environment
- Role of ‘community keepers’
8. Power and organisational hierarchy
- Do orders reflect people’s practice?
- ‘Transversal’ relations (rather than horizontal/vertical)
11. CoPs vs formal training
- Training course is dedicated time
- CoPs can be more difficult time-wise → less formally scheduled
- Good idea to schedule time for CoPs
- Give an opportunity to share common problems → turn the light on (like a matchmaker)
3. Social learning vs Reflective learning
- Crossing boundaries
- ‘Being different in the world’ – like a mirror
6. Committees vs CoPs
- CoP as ‘question’, rather than ‘answer’
- Would it be useful to think about a committee it as a CoP?
- CoPs are not always the right thing to do
- What keeps you up at night? – key question
- Just do it! (Forget explaining it)
- What’s in it for me?
- If a CoP doesn’t serve you, don’t go!
- Creating a collective good → the practice
9. Universities as places of learning – formal vs informal communities
- Move away from CoPs as ‘formal’ or ‘informal’
- CoPs go back to people in caves
- Practice goes beyond just chat → CoPs should change practice
- Intensity about practitioners ‘talking shop’